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8 Papers

81.2LGMay 8
Sign-Based Optimizers Are Effective Under Heavy-Tailed Noise

Dingzhi Yu, Hongyi Tao, Yuanyu Wan et al.

While adaptive gradient methods are the workhorse of modern machine learning, sign-based optimization algorithms such as Lion and Muon have recently demonstrated superior empirical performance over AdamW in training large language models (LLM). However, a theoretical understanding of why sign-based updates outperform variance-adapted methods remains elusive. In this paper, we aim to bridge the gap between theory and practice through the lens of heavy-tailed gradient noise, a phenomenon frequently observed in language modeling tasks. Theoretically, we introduce a novel generalized heavy-tailed noise condition that captures the behavior of LLMs more accurately than standard finite variance assumptions. Under this noise model, we establish sharp convergence rates of SignSGD and Lion for generalized smooth function classes, matching or surpassing previous best-known bounds. Furthermore, we extend our analysis to Muon and Muonlight, providing what is, to our knowledge, the first rigorous analysis of matrix optimization under heavy-tailed stochasticity. These results offer a strong theoretical justification for the empirical superiority of sign-based optimizers, showcasing that they are naturally suited to handle the noisy gradients associated with heavy tails. Empirically, LLM pretraining experiments validate our theoretical insights and confirm that our proposed noise models are well-aligned with practice.

90.3LGApr 16
StoSignSGD: Unbiased Structural Stochasticity Fixes SignSGD for Training Large Language Models

Dingzhi Yu, Rui Pan, Yuxing Liu et al.

Sign-based optimization algorithms, such as SignSGD, have garnered significant attention for their remarkable performance in distributed learning and training large foundation models. Despite their empirical superiority, SignSGD is known to diverge on non-smooth objectives, which are ubiquitous in modern machine learning due to ReLUs, max-pools, and mixture-of-experts. To overcome this fundamental limitation, we propose \textbf{StoSignSGD}, an algorithm that injects structural stochasticity into the sign operator while maintaining an unbiased update step. In the regime of (online) convex optimization, our theoretical analysis shows that StoSignSGD rigorously resolves the non-convergence issues of SignSGD, achieving a sharp convergence rate matching the lower bound. For the more challenging non-convex non-smooth optimization, we introduce generalized stationary measures that encompass prior definitions, proving that StoSignSGD improves upon the best-known complexity bounds by dimensional factors. Empirically, StoSignSGD exhibits robust stability and superior efficiency across diverse large language model (LLM) training regimes. Notably, in low-precision FP8 pretraining -- a setting where AdamW fails catastrophically -- StoSignSGD remains highly stable and yields a remarkable 1.44$\times$ to 2.14$\times$ speedup relative to established baselines. Furthermore, when fine-tuning 7B LLMs on mathematical reasoning tasks, StoSignSGD delivers substantial performance gains over both AdamW and SignSGD. Finally, to dissect the mechanisms driving its success, we develop a sign conversion framework capable of transforming any general optimizer into its unbiased, sign-based counterpart. Utilizing this framework, we deconstruct the core components of StoSignSGD and present a comprehensive ablation study to empirically validate our algorithmic design choices.

LGFeb 10
Improved Approximate Regret for Decentralized Online Continuous Submodular Maximization via Reductions

Yuanyu Wan, Yu Shen, Dingzhi Yu et al.

To expand the applicability of decentralized online learning, previous studies have proposed several algorithms for decentralized online continuous submodular maximization (D-OCSM) -- a non-convex/non-concave setting with continuous DR-submodular reward functions. However, there exist large gaps between their approximate regret bounds and the regret bounds achieved in the convex setting. Moreover, if focusing on projection-free algorithms, which can efficiently handle complex decision sets, they cannot even recover the approximate regret bounds achieved in the centralized setting. In this paper, we first demonstrate that for D-OCSM over general convex decision sets, these two issues can be addressed simultaneously. Furthermore, for D-OCSM over downward-closed decision sets, we show that the second issue can be addressed while significantly alleviating the first issue. Our key techniques are two reductions from D-OCSM to decentralized online convex optimization (D-OCO), which can exploit D-OCO algorithms to improve the approximate regret of D-OCSM in these two cases, respectively.

72.7LGMay 7
When and Why SignSGD Outperforms SGD: A Theoretical Study Based on $\ell_1$-norm Lower Bounds

Hongyi Tao, Dingzhi Yu, Lijun Zhang

Sign-based optimization algorithms, such as SignSGD and Muon, have garnered significant attention for their remarkable performance in training large foundation models. Despite this empirical success, we still lack a theoretical understanding of when and why these sign-based methods outperform vanilla SGD. The core obstacle is that under standard smoothness and finite variance conditions, SGD is known to be minimax optimal for finding stationary points measured by $\ell_2$-norms, thereby fundamentally precluding any complexity gains for sign-based methods in standard settings. To overcome this barrier, we analyze sign-based optimizers leveraging $\ell_1$-norm stationarity, $\ell_\infty$-smoothness, and a separable noise model, which can better capture the coordinate-wise nature of signed updates. Under this distinct problem geometry, we derive matched upper and lower bounds for SignSGD and explicitly characterize the problem class in which SignSGD provably dominates SGD. Specifically, we compare the \emph{upper bound of SignSGD} with the \emph{lower bound of SGD}, illustrating that SignSGD effectively reduces the complexity by a factor of $d$ under \emph{sparse noise}, where $d$ is the problem dimension. Furthermore, we elevate this framework to the matrix domain, providing an equivalent optimal lower bound for the Muon optimizer, proving that extending the sign operator to matrices preserves this optimal scaling with dimensionality. Finally, we bridge our theoretical bounds to practice, demonstrating that the theoretical superiority of SignSGD accurately predicts its faster convergence during the pretraining of a 124M parameter GPT-2 model.

LGMar 6, 2024
Efficient Algorithms for Empirical Group Distributionally Robust Optimization and Beyond

Dingzhi Yu, Yunuo Cai, Wei Jiang et al.

In this paper, we investigate the empirical counterpart of Group Distributionally Robust Optimization (GDRO), which aims to minimize the maximal empirical risk across $m$ distinct groups. We formulate empirical GDRO as a $\textit{two-level}$ finite-sum convex-concave minimax optimization problem and develop an algorithm called ALEG to benefit from its special structure. ALEG is a double-looped stochastic primal-dual algorithm that incorporates variance reduction techniques into a modified mirror prox routine. To exploit the two-level finite-sum structure, we propose a simple group sampling strategy to construct the stochastic gradient with a smaller Lipschitz constant and then perform variance reduction for all groups. Theoretical analysis shows that ALEG achieves $\varepsilon$-accuracy within a computation complexity of $\mathcal{O}\left(\frac{m\sqrt{\bar{n}\ln{m}}}{\varepsilon}\right)$, where $\bar n$ is the average number of samples among $m$ groups. Notably, our approach outperforms the state-of-the-art method by a factor of $\sqrt{m}$. Based on ALEG, we further develop a two-stage optimization algorithm called ALEM to deal with the empirical Minimax Excess Risk Optimization (MERO) problem. The computation complexity of ALEM nearly matches that of ALEG, surpassing the rates of existing methods.

OCFeb 2, 2025
Mirror Descent Under Generalized Smoothness

Dingzhi Yu, Wei Jiang, Yuanyu Wan et al.

Smoothness is crucial for attaining fast rates in first-order optimization. However, many optimization problems in modern machine learning involve non-smooth objectives. Recent studies relax the smoothness assumption by allowing the Lipschitz constant of the gradient to grow with respect to the gradient norm, which accommodates a broad range of objectives in practice. Despite this progress, existing generalizations of smoothness are restricted to Euclidean geometry with $\ell_2$-norm and only have theoretical guarantees for optimization in the Euclidean space. In this paper, we address this limitation by introducing a new $\ell*$-smoothness concept that measures the norm of Hessians in terms of a general norm and its dual, and establish convergence for mirror-descent-type algorithms, matching the rates under the classic smoothness. Notably, we propose a generalized self-bounding property that facilitates bounding the gradients via controlling suboptimality gaps, serving as a principal component for convergence analysis. Beyond deterministic optimization, we establish an anytime convergence for stochastic mirror descent based on a new bounded noise condition that encompasses the widely adopted bounded or affine noise assumptions.

OCJul 16, 2025
Improved Analysis for Sign-based Methods with Momentum Updates

Wei Jiang, Dingzhi Yu, Sifan Yang et al.

In this paper, we present enhanced analysis for sign-based optimization algorithms with momentum updates. Traditional sign-based methods, under the separable smoothness assumption, guarantee a convergence rate of $\mathcal{O}(T^{-1/4})$, but they either require large batch sizes or assume unimodal symmetric stochastic noise. To address these limitations, we demonstrate that signSGD with momentum can achieve the same convergence rate using constant batch sizes without additional assumptions. Our analysis, under the standard $l_2$-smoothness condition, improves upon the result of the prior momentum-based signSGD method by a factor of $\mathcal{O}(d^{1/2})$, where $d$ is the problem dimension. Furthermore, we explore sign-based methods with majority vote in distributed settings and show that the proposed momentum-based method yields convergence rates of $\mathcal{O}\left( d^{1/2}T^{-1/2} + dn^{-1/2} \right)$ and $\mathcal{O}\left( \max \{ d^{1/4}T^{-1/4}, d^{1/10}T^{-1/5} \} \right)$, which outperform the previous results of $\mathcal{O}\left( dT^{-1/4} + dn^{-1/2} \right)$ and $\mathcal{O}\left( d^{3/8}T^{-1/8} \right)$, respectively. Numerical experiments further validate the effectiveness of the proposed methods.

LGMay 21, 2025
Group Distributionally Robust Optimization with Flexible Sample Queries

Haomin Bai, Dingzhi Yu, Shuai Li et al.

Group distributionally robust optimization (GDRO) aims to develop models that perform well across $m$ distributions simultaneously. Existing GDRO algorithms can only process a fixed number of samples per iteration, either 1 or $m$, and therefore can not support scenarios where the sample size varies dynamically. To address this limitation, we investigate GDRO with flexible sample queries and cast it as a two-player game: one player solves an online convex optimization problem, while the other tackles a prediction with limited advice (PLA) problem. Within such a game, we propose a novel PLA algorithm, constructing appropriate loss estimators for cases where the sample size is either 1 or not, and updating the decision using follow-the-regularized-leader. Then, we establish the first high-probability regret bound for non-oblivious PLA. Building upon the above approach, we develop a GDRO algorithm that allows an arbitrary and varying sample size per round, achieving a high-probability optimization error bound of $O\left(\frac{1}{t}\sqrt{\sum_{j=1}^t \frac{m}{r_j}\log m}\right)$, where $r_t$ denotes the sample size at round $t$. This result demonstrates that the optimization error decreases as the number of samples increases and implies a consistent sample complexity of $O(m\log (m)/ε^2)$ for any fixed sample size $r\in[m]$, aligning with existing bounds for cases of $r=1$ or $m$. We validate our approach on synthetic binary and real-world multi-class datasets.