Minyi Guo

Xinwei Qiang, Hongmin Chen, Shixuan Sun et al.

Determinism is indispensable for reproducibility in large language model (LLM) training, yet it often exacts a steep performance cost. In widely used attention implementations such as FlashAttention-3, the deterministic backward pass can incur up to a 37.9% throughput reduction relative to its non-deterministic counterpart, primarily because gradient accumulation operations must be serialized to guarantee numerical consistency. This performance loss stems from suboptimal scheduling of compute and gradient-reduction phases, leading to significant hardware underutilization. To address this challenge, we formulate the backward pass of deterministic attention as a scheduling problem on a Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) and derive schedules that minimize the critical path length. Building on this formulation, we present DASH (Deterministic Attention Scheduling for High-Throughput), which encapsulates two complementary scheduling strategies: (i) Descending Q-Tile Iteration, a reversed query-block traversal that shrinks pipeline stalls in causal attention, and (ii) Shift Scheduling, a theoretically optimal schedule within our DAG model that reduces pipeline stalls for both full and causal masks. Our empirical evaluations on NVIDIA H800 GPUs demonstrate that DASH narrows the performance gap of deterministic attention. The proposed strategies improve the throughput of the attention backward pass by up to 1.28$\times$ compared to the baseline, significantly advancing the efficiency of reproducible LLM training. Our code is open-sourced at https://github.com/SJTU-Liquid/deterministic-FA3.

Kangkang Sun, Jun Wu, Jianhua Li et al.

Uncertainty estimation in multi-LLM systems remains largely single-model-centric: existing methods quantify uncertainty within each model but do not adequately capture semantic disagreement across models. To address this gap, we propose Collaborative Entropy (CoE), a unified information-theoretic metric for semantic uncertainty in multi-LLM collaboration. CoE is defined on a shared semantic cluster space and combines two components: intra-model semantic entropy and inter-model divergence to the ensemble mean. CoE is not a weighted ensemble predictor; it is a system-level uncertainty measure that characterizes collaborative confidence and disagreement. We analyze several core properties of CoE, including non-negativity, zero-value certainty under perfect semantic consensus, and the behavior of CoE when individual models collapse to delta distributions. These results clarify when reducing per-model uncertainty is sufficient and when residual inter-model disagreement remains. We also present a simple CoE-guided, training-free post-hoc coordination heuristic as a practical application of the metric. Experiments on \textit{TriviaQA} and \textit{SQuAD} with LLaMA-3.1-8B-Instruct, Qwen-2.5-7B-Instruct, and Mistral-7B-Instruct show that CoE provides stronger uncertainty estimation than standard entropy- and divergence-based baselines, with gains becoming larger as additional heterogeneous models are introduced. Overall, CoE offers a useful uncertainty-aware perspective on multi-LLM collaboration.